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    Quote Originally Posted by RampantReptiles View Post
    so why do people use perlite/vermiculite? Im pretty sure cocofiber is a lot cheaper...
    i think because of personal preference. i like how easy vermiculite is. it holds moisture well without being soggy and does not dry out very easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampantReptiles View Post
    so why do people use perlite/vermiculite? Im pretty sure cocofiber is a lot cheaper...
    Coco fiber work in very much the same way that vermiculite works... It is a moisture retaining substrate where as perlite is not the same... Perlite works more like drainage stones... When used properly, any of these substrates will work well... It is a matter of choice and what works best for you...

    Most people use perlite or vermiculite because it has worked for numerous people, it is cheap, and relativily easy to obtain... However they are not the only substrates that are acceptable for egg incubation...
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    I've personally had great success with the following incubation substrates (used for mostly geckos, but also monitors/lizards, many species of snakes, chameleons, tortoises, etc):

    Vermiculite
    Perlite
    Clay granules
    sand (for low humidity species)
    peat moss
    sphagnum moss

    I mainly use vermiculite for economic purposes since I use so much (4 cubic ft bags are about $30) and even though most people recommend throwing it away and replacing each year- I've gone some years without changing the vermiculite for 2-3 years without any issues. The trend overseas is the usage of perlite and clay granules, which I think will slowly become more popular in the states. I also use vermiculite, sphagnum moss or cocofiber for lay boxes.

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    Im using the STA GREEN from Lowes. It doesnt have any fertilizer. Cant smell it, cant see it. Its listed as 100% vermiculite. Im sure if it had fertilizer they would say so to sell more of it, and it would be more expensive IMO.

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    I use vermiculite because I've got a nursery a mile from my house that sells me 20lbs bags of all organic large grain premium vermiculite for 20 a bag!! Vermiculite is very light so you can image how big a 20 lbs bag is. I sell gallon zip lock's stuffed full of it (1.5lbs) at the local shows for 3$ each. I was so happy when I found this nursery cause I had the same problem trying to find it as everyone else. I hatch 95+ % of my eggs each year with vermiculite so I don't really see the need for more expensive options like hatchrite.

    Use what works for you, if you don't have vermiculite available there are plenty of other options that work good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampantReptiles View Post
    so why do people use perlite/vermiculite? Im pretty sure cocofiber is a lot cheaper...
    I have tried both, but I don't care for either vermiculite or perlite, as for me, it's hard to get the humidity and water exact. I had many deli eggs mold with these.

    I've found it harder to keep cocofiber moist.

    I have settled on super hatch. It's very easy. I have used it one year, and I didn't lose any eggs.
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    I'm using the Sta-Green brand also. It has no fertilizer in it. Anything with plant food (fertilizer) has a N.P.K. number on the package somewhere. Here is a link for example: http://www.scotts.com/smg/products/M...eat%20Moss.pdf Notice the numbers in the bottom left corner (0.05-0.02-0.04) those are your N.P.K. numbers. This is must when fertilizer is present. These are the fertilizer's analysis. Hope this helps. I used to grow alot of things so I'm pretty good with soil mixtures.
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    I also use vermiculite.it holds water well .I only have to mist once every 4-5 days.It's also easy to sift through when your looking for eggs.i also use it in my incubator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goReptiles View Post
    I have tried both, but I don't care for either vermiculite or perlite, as for me, it's hard to get the humidity and water exact. I had many deli eggs mold with these.

    I've found it harder to keep cocofiber moist.

    I have settled on super hatch. It's very easy. I have used it one year, and I didn't lose any eggs.
    Can I make asuggestion.When I get my vermiculite ready for the incubator I soak my vermiculite in water and get handfuls of vermiculite and squeeze every last drop of water out.There is no way to screw up.it should crumbel to the touch.It is just damp.Craig from the urban gecko instructed me on that unscientific method lol,but its easy to do.

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    As a gardener, I always had vermiculite mold on me like a fiend, so I'm really wary of using it as an incubation medium, but with so much success, I guess I should give it a try.

    I've been unable to locate perlite without fertilizers, but I never have trouble finding unfertilized vermiculite.

    That being said, currently all I have is coco fiber, does anyone know the medium to water ratio?
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