Morph Help?

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Hi there. My friend and I are new to breeding (just starting up this year). We know all the basics and are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to genetics and how it works. We also have records of the genetics of all our leos. All except one that is. We purchased this handsome male ( along eith a tremper female and a mack snow jungle eclipse female) from a guy on Craigslist who was in a bind as he would no longer have time to care for his leos, which he had originally purchased from high-end breeders. My friend thought the guy had said it was a tiger morph. But we soon realized it probably was not the case as we had not heard of it, nor were we able to find it in any searches. So we probably remembered wrong. We can't for the life of us figure it out.
It is hard to tell in some lighting. We thought that maybe he was a wild type/normal and potentially giant (he is about 80+g). I honestly have no clue. Any help in figuring out his morph would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! :)

Here is Sobek
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This next picture is from a test cross we did last year with him and our Mack Snow Jungle Eclipse.

The baby with Sobek
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Both parents
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DrCarrotTail

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I'd call him a tangerine and a gorgeous one at that. There's no way to know if or what hets are in his background without extensive test breeding.
 
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Neon Aurora: We will most likely be using the offspring of his this season as a test cross. Currently our clientele is mainly for pets not other breeders. So we have time to figure out what (if any) possible hets. I added above a few more pictures of a cross we did last year to test things out. The baby is a female.
 
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I'd call him a tangerine and a gorgeous one at that. There's no way to know if or what hets are in his background without extensive test breeding.

I think he is a bit too dark? I do see the darker Orange-ish stripes on his sides. But wouldn't a tangerine have a bit more vibrant orange? I added a picture above of his first offspring. (did a test cross last year with our Mack Snow female)
 

DrCarrotTail

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To prove he's not het for any of the albino strains you'd have to test breed him to one or more visual albino females from each strain and produce about 20 non-albino babies to be pretty certain he does not carry a het. One albino baby means he does carry a het. That would mean about 60 babies give or take that would be all pet quality until hets were proven - once you know that he doesn't carry a het at all or find he carries only one then the babies from that albino strain would be breeder quality (or all of them if you prove he has no hets). 60 babies is quite a few so most folks choose to only buy and breed animals they know the backgrounds of. If you have the time, space and homes for the babies then it may be something you would like to do.

Hypo tangerines tend to be solid orange and bright. "Normal" tangerines tend to look like normals with lots of spots and a dirty coloration but with deep red/orange under the color like your boy has. Some projects call for orange without the hypo and folks look for animals like your guy. I have a couple nice tangerines around - I'll see if I can dig up a pic or go take a new one so you can compare :)
 
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This is a terrible picture of my nicest tangerine male. He's from Ohio Gecko's G63 project.
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He is very pretty! Yeah we don't have the space or homes for that many geckos just yet. haha. :) I'm going to see if I can get in touch with the person we got him from. Just have to find his number. We really appreciate the assistance. Thanks for your input. :)
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