Wow just wow.

[Adinar]

Has anyone ever seen a blizzard hatchling with a stripe like this? I was floored when I saw it finally out of it's shell.

Will get some better pics once the little one has a chance to relax a bit.

Link to my other thread for those who want to see the parents.

 

[yellermelon]

Pretty sure thats a really nice looking Murphys patternless....I could be wrong though. Congrats either way!!!

 

[Angel]

thats what im thinking.

 

[yellermelon]

I will also say the other baby looks like a blizzard. It is very possible the parents carry both traits. They both look to be patternless IMO, maybe they are het Blizzard? Just my guessing.

 

[Adinar]

Pretty sure thats a really nice looking Murphys patternless....I could be wrong though. Congrats either way!!!

Even though the parents are both blizzards?

I don't have genetics down, so not sure if a blizzard x blizzard pairing would produce anything other than more blizzards. Is it possible?

Either way, we're still stoked about the new arrivals.

 

[yellermelon]

No hang on lol...I am wrong if they are both patty you wouldnt get a pure blizzard. Im not sure whats going on here. It appears you have a blizzard hatchling and a Patternless hatchling. The only way you could get that would be from a blizzard het patty X patty het blizzard pairing (or vice verca) I know this was dabbled in awhile back when people was trying to produce "bannana blizzards"...I would say see what else you pop out from the pairing

 

[Adinar]

If it helps at all, there's no way that we could have a mix up of whos eggs are whos. We only have one breeding pair.

 

[RampantReptiles]

That looks like the spotting for a patternless but even on pattys they dont go down the spine like that?
My guess is that your blizzards have some patty in them... Can we see pics of the parents?
Pretty neat looking gecko

 

[RampantReptiles]

Nope I was wrong the spotting does do that. Looked at examples of baby pattys on crestedgecko.com and that definitely looks like a patty.

 

[janjgeckos]

That looks like the spotting for a patternless but even on pattys they dont go down the spine like that?
My guess is that your blizzards have some patty in them... Can we see pics of the parents?
Pretty neat looking gecko

Heres a Mac Patty

 

[Adinar]

That looks like the spotting for a patternless but even on pattys they dont go down the spine like that?
My guess is that your blizzards have some patty in them... Can we see pics of the parents?
Pretty neat looking gecko

Sure, I've got pics of them posted on the thread from the other hatchling. Just scroll down a few responses and I posted 3 pictures.
http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=60372

 

[acpart]

Any way the parents could both be blizzard het patternless? I thought the definitive way to distinguish blizzard from patternless was that patternless would have markings at birth that fade and blizzards wouldn't.

Aliza

 

[yellermelon]

If they was both blizzard het patty all barbies would be homo bliz. That's why I think one parent is bliz other is patty both het for the other. That's the only way I cam think of to get a bliz baby and a patty baby lol

 

[RampantReptiles]

Im curious, what does a banana blizzard(patternless blizzard) hatchling look like? I tried looking online without much luck.
Does it have the spots like a patty or no spots like a blizzard?(I think they have spots)

Where did you get the parents?

Possibilities I think are...

Like yellermelon said
Mom is a patty het blizzard and dad is a blizzard het patty
OR
Mom is a banana blizzard and dad is a blizzard het patty

Dad is most definitely a blizzard, he has some darkening in his eye you can see in the third pick. Although both mom and dad look to have a slight yellowish hue to them but that might be lighting/camera whatever...

Your little baby might be a banana blizzard but I am not sure...

 

[Adinar]

Im curious, what does a banana blizzard(patternless blizzard) hatchling look like? I tried looking online without much luck.
Does it have the spots like a patty or no spots like a blizzard?(I think they have spots)

Where did you get the parents?

Possibilities I think are...

Like yellermelon said
Mom is a patty het blizzard and dad is a blizzard het patty
OR
Mom is a banana blizzard and dad is a blizzard het patty

Dad is most definitely a blizzard, he has some darkening in his eye you can see in the third pick. Although both mom and dad look to have a slight yellowish hue to them but that might be lighting/camera whatever...

Your little baby might be a banana blizzard but I am not sure...

Parents were bought from a breeder (Turtle Xing) at the Hamburg show back during the winter. All's he told us was that they were midnight blizzards and were selling them as a pair. He was the owners son and I don't think he knew much about them other than the fact that they were blizzards and that they were proven once before.

 

[paulnj]

I BRED 1.3 MACK BLIZZARD HET RW from HISS together and hatched 2 blizzard animals that had a pattern very similiar. bother proved to NOT be patternless and outgrew that patterning by 15-18 grams.

 

[RampantReptiles]

How did you prove them not patternless.. from breeding? I dont get how they could not be patternless when thats what a patternless looks like when it hatches. All patternless leos outgrow the pattern and look a lot like blizzards aside from coloration.
Guess I dont understand what you mean paul, please could you explain it further.

 

[acpart]

So now, as a new owner of what I've been told is a snow blizzard, but which other people say is a patternless, if there's no reliable way to tell blizzard from patternless in a hatchling, is there ever any reliable way to tell them apart?

Aliza

 

[Adinar]

Either way, whatever the little one is, I'm just glad we had 2 more happy, healthy hatchlings.

 

[RampantReptiles]

patternless are yellow.. blizzards not so much